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By Simon Hornblower

This is often the second one quantity of a three-volume old and literary remark of the 8 books of Thucydides, the nice fifth-century BC historian of the Peloponnesian battle among Athens and Sparta. Books iv-v.24 conceal the years 425-421 BC and include the Pylos-Spakteria narrative, the Delion crusade, and Brasidas' operations within the north of Greece. This quantity ends with the Peace of Nikias and the alliance among Athens and Sparta. a brand new function of this quantity is the entire thematic creation which discusses such themes as Thucydides and Herodotus, Thucydide's presentation of Brasidas, Thucydides and kinship, speech--direct and indirect--in iv-v.24, Thucydides and epigraphy (including own names), iv-v.24 as a piece of paintings: leading edge or in simple terms incomplete? Thucydides meant his paintings to be "an eternal ownership" and the ongoing value of his paintings is undisputed. Simon Hornblower's statement, via translating each passage of Greek commented on for the 1st time, permits readers with very little Greek to understand the element of Thucydides' suggestion and subject-matter. an entire index on the finish of the amount.

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N ) . This virtual silence produces a problem which cannot detain us now. The problem is, however, similar in some ways to Thucydides' silence about Herodotus. There can be no strict proof of influence, polemic, or use without an explicit mention by name, and Thucydides' text contains no such mention—which brings me to the theme of the present section. What was Thucydides' relation to Herodotus, whom he never mentions? 61 62 6 Stroud's article is about Corinth, and makes valuable points about Thucydides' excellent detailed knowledge of Corinthian affairs.

Kennelly, then, has ignored one of the most discussed and most interesting candidates for a Herodotean allusion in Thucydides. Incidentally, Thucydides at vii. 87. e. 414. Or rather it would be problematic for Kennelly if he showed awareness of the passage at all. Kennelly has, in fact, omitted the many significant Herodotean parallels in Th. v-viii altogether, except to make three points: (i) he asserts the non-Herodotean origin of the Zankle material. Th. vi. 4. ; (ii) he mentions the battle of the Champions at Th.

As we have seen, Kennelly claims to ofTer a systematic investigation of his topic, with no announcement of or apology for any restriction to the Ten Years War narrative. e. to Th. i-v. 24, 85 ** Maclcod (above, n 46}. 157, 29 Intrtkiuction that theories about Herodotus' 414 publication date can possibly be relevant, even on Kennelly's own assumptions. The phrase 'systematic investigation' recalls exactly, but in view of Kennelly's non-citation of Macleod coincidentally, Colin Macleod's remark that 'the relation between Thucydides and Herodotus, so important and so obvious, has never been adequately or systematically investigated'.

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